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  • 05/06/2011

    Reviewer is A current student here.

    11 out of 11 people found this review useful. 1 of 15

    Categories Comments
    Great for these types of students

    Great for those computer-savvy, technical guys who love technology, video games and staying up late. But do not be scared away, thinking you're going to be a shut-in if you come to this school. There are plenty of outdoor-sy activities all around here. There are kids who go running and riding bikes all over the place, there's rock climbing, and snowboarding/skiing. You will never be bored here.

    Tips for prospective students

    Be prepared. This is one hell of a roller coaster and it can be as hard or as easy as you want it to be. If you study and prepare and be a good student, things will work out. If you slack off, you're done. There is no leeway for those who just want to coast on by, and get a degree for something. This is an active learning environment. You just have to be a good student, and have common sense. Study for tests, do your homework, and make sure you understand the things that you are doing. There are plenty of tutors and friends that are more than willing to help, as long as you are willing to help.

    Bang for the buck

    It is a very expensive school. There are a lot of scholarships out there, however, and it just takes the time and effort to get all the free money you need. As for the bang, Neumont university (as of 2010) has a 100% placement for graduates within 6 months of receiving their degree. I have yet to graduate, so I would not know much about what happens then, but Neumont has had a few guest speakers, kids that have graduated from Neumont and have amazing jobs at outstanding companies. They come in and tell us how life is great ever since they put in the effort for their school, and how much it's paid off. Literally and figuratively.

    Am enjoying being here

    There has not been one day where I have not been invited to participate in an activity or there's an event that one of the Orders or clubs are hosting. There is always something to do and it is a very tight, close community who all are willing to help each other when/if someone asks.

    Am learning a lot

    Every day is a learning experience here at Neumont. Coming here with no experience with any of the things they were doing here was a little daunting. I met people with a lot of experience, and others with no experience at all, just like me. Another friend of mine wrote his own antivirus program before even coming here! But the early months of Neumont got me sped up, and keep me sped up on all the new information that is now bursting at the seams from in my brain! The learning experience here is fantastic and if I could rate the school and the staff here, I would give 6 stars!

  • 05/06/2011

    Reviewer is A current student here.

    5 out of 5 people found this review useful. 2 of 15

    Categories Comments
    Great for these types of students

    anyone looking for a promising career in computer science or business should come to Neumont. The teaching is enriching and will make you understand what it is your learning.

    Tips for prospective students

    Diligence, you have to stay focused and on top of your work. But Neumont is good about keeping fun in your life as well, because they know everyone needs a break.

    Bang for the buck

    The school is challenging, its not easy to graduate because of how compressed the learning is, but it is all hands on and even if your only here for a few quarters you will walk away knowing alot more than when you came here.

    Am enjoying being here

    Theres always something to do, every weekend theres something being funded by the school for free or really low cost, and if you don't have a car neumont has shuttles to drive you.

    Am learning a lot

    I came to Neumont with very little prior knowledge of programming, but since coming here I've made dozens of programs using Visual Studio or Eclipse fro ma range of an RPG game to calulators and piant applications.

  • 05/12/2011

    Reviewer is A current student here.

    5 out of 5 people found this review useful. 3 of 15

    Categories Comments
    Great for these types of students

    Geeks nerds likes working in groups

    Tips for prospective students

    apply early it helps you get scholarships Learn about the campus make sure you won't freak out right before coming here.

    Bang for the buck

    It is only a tad more expensive than public school but is a lot quick only 2.5 if you stay on track

    Am enjoying being here

    I love the snow and the atmosphere of geeks it is going to be a dream for me There are a lot of really nice people and some really cool things to do.

    Am learning a lot

    With IBM on their side as well as eBay and many other large corporations they will train you with the best knowledge. They have a lot of good teachers and generally they want you to get out in to the work force

  • 05/06/2011

    Reviewer is A current student here.

    4 out of 4 people found this review useful. 4 of 15

    Categories Comments
    Great for these types of students

    People who like playing LoL,Starcraft,WoW, and Magic the Gathering. If you're looking for a relaxing environment, during your class breaks. If you're looking to take college seriously and wanting to get in the work force with a great paycheck even before you graduate.

    Tips for prospective students

    Don't come to Neumont expecting to pass classes if you're not going to attend them. Neumont grades are highly dependent on your attendance rate.

    Bang for the buck

    It's a bit expensive to attend the school, but for the price and the time it takes for you to complete the degree, not to mention how much you'll be getting paid when you graduate with a job, it's worth it.

    Am enjoying being here

    The people at the school are great. Everyone has the same interests as you do and mostly everyone is easy to get along with. There are a lot of things to do around the apartments and everywhere is easy to get. We have a mall down the street and a Wal-Mart and Sam's club around the corner.

    Am learning a lot

    I came to Neumont with no previous experience, with the 3 short quarters I've been here, I now know practically everything there is to know about Java, HTML and CSS. The teachers are great and really take an interest on whether or not you're learning the material you're supposed to know

  • 04/23/2012

    Reviewer is A current student here.

    4 out of 4 people found this review useful. 5 of 15

    Categories Comments
    Food and Dining

    The school offers lunch however if you wish to dine off campus there are a few place very close to the campus from which you can choose.

    Dorm Life

    The dorm is an apartment complex which the school rents a few apartments from.

    Academic Rigor

    The classes are hands-on and geared to help you get a job once you graduate.

    Tips for prospective students

    Even thought the program is quicker the most colleges it does not mean it is any-less challenging so be ready to work.

    In three sentences

    Course is hands-on and the instructors are very helpful. The campus is not too big. The staff is very nice and always willing to help.

  • 05/23/2012

    Reviewer is A current student here.

    3 out of 3 people found this review useful. 6 of 15

    Categories Comments
    Great for these types of students

    Gamers, and coders.

    Share any unusual traditions or locations on campus

    There is a large gaming culture here. When I say that I mean that only a handful of students don't play games.

    Food and Dining

    The school doesn't have a cafeteria, but monday through thursday a catering company comes in and provides lunch for 5$ a plate. Also almost every tuesday the LDS church provided free lunch. Only bad thing is fridays are fend for yourself but there are many restaurants around campus.

    Dorm Life

    The apartments the school uses as dorms are very nice. Nothing bad here.

    Academic Rigor

    Very challenging and engaging. But some degrees are more challenging than others.

    Tips for prospective students

    Be ready for a heavy workload right off the bat. Don't get lazy and don't get discouraged.

    In three sentences

    Neumont has a well-defined community. Has the goal of getting you a job after graduation. And has some of the best teachers in the state.

  • 12/30/2012

    Reviewer is A current student here.

    3 out of 3 people found this review useful. 7 of 15

    Categories Comments
    Campus Safety

    You have a student ID which allows you to use the elevators and access the floor with classrooms on it. The administration floor is accessed without a pass, but remembering your student ID is important if you want to be able to get to your classes. This also keeps curious people out of the way unless they are on a tour with the school.

    Greek Life

    No frats of sororities. We're all geeky computer kids.

    Clubs and Activities

    There are some clubs and activities, but since it is a small school there's not a whole lot to choose from. However any student is welcome to make their own club/activity, all they have to to is talk to the student activities director and have a few students that also want to join. For example a few of my friends starting a fighting games tournament and a pokemon club.

    Great for these types of students

    Students who love technology, games, programming. Many students were considered nerds in high school and are relieved that all the students here are nerds and think the things we were made fun of for in high school are cool. If you're into anime, video games, blogging, star wars, dragon ball z, pokemon, etc. this is the school for you. I myself have had numerous nerf wars both in school and in my apartment with my roommates. Just be careful that you balance your gaming and social life with your studies.

    Share any unusual traditions or locations on campus

    The campus is two floors in an office building, so there's not a whole lot to do around the school but study and play games, but the school is next to a beautiful park with a great view of the mountains.

    Bang for the buck

    This school is extremely expensive and challenging, but the fast pace makes sure you never get bored, and some classes are only five weeks so you're always learning new things and moving on. If you fail a class you are welcome to take it again and they will replace the grade. You can't argue with their job placement rate, especially in today's economy.

    What to do for fun

    The school has a game room with a pool, ping pong and air hockey tables, as well as arcade games and another game room with xbox's, wii's, N64 and other consoles, however you are only allowed to use that room if your GPA is at a certain point. There are also a lot of beautiful areas to hike and go camping if you're an outdoors type. Not a lot of students are outdoorsy, but there are sometimes organized camping or skiing trips.

    Food and Dining

    There is no meal plan, you are expected to buy your own groceries and prepare your own meals, except for lunch when a lady will come in with a hot meal that you can purchase for 5$ a day. Feeding yourself is completely up to you, but I don't suggest living off ramen. Many students go shopping with their roommates after all pitching the same amount of money and having community food, others choose to all buy their own food and take care of themselves individually. If you are looking for freedom and responsibility, living off campus in an apartment might be what you're looking for.

    Dorm Life

    The school plans to move to a new building downtown this summer, but the current living arrangements are off campus apartments about a mile away, where you live with three other students and share a room with one. Many students elect to live outside of student housing or change apartments to live with their friend after attending school for a while. The apartments have full size kitchens, balconies, washer/dryer and utilities are included because you pay through the school instead of dealing with the apartments yourselves.

    Academic Rigor

    This is an extremely challenging school, and is very fast paced. If you don't keep up you can fall behind very quickly. It is also a year round school which is hard for some students to adjust to. About half of the students drop out or fail by the time their first year is almost finished, either because they couldn't handle the work load or because programming just wasn't for them.

    Tips for prospective students

    Be prepared to work your butt off, this school is not easy. If you're the kind of student who's always barely paid attention and still gotten good grades you're in for a rude awakening if you try that here. You need to put 100% into everything you do, but the level of education you'll receive and the depth that you'll know the subject will be rewarding. If you've never programmed before I would suggest you spend some time trying some basic programming before you choose Neumont as your school, not everyone is cut out for it.

    In three sentences

    Neumont is a great school if you want to get your foot in the door of the Computer Industry, the last year is spent working for actual companies and many students receive job offers from those companies if they preform well. The job placement rate is close to 100% if you graduate with average starting salary around 50k. They teach you in a way that will help you go straight into the industry without a lot of re-training by the company you end up working for.

  • 12/06/2012

    Reviewer is A current student here.

    2 out of 2 people found this review useful. 8 of 15

    Categories Comments
    Campus Safety

    The campus itself is a secure environment and has security patrols employed by the River Park Complex's owners. Student Affairs will coordinate with these security personnel as well as those in the housing facilities.

    Clubs and Activities

    Neumont has a wide array of Student-led orders and clubs. Here are some examples: Beatwise: The student-led Neumont Choir Coding Club Cycling Club Unified Student Government Students for Civic Responsibility Some general activities: -Week One_Done (Basically a party/event at the end of the first week of every quarter. These events vary from foam weapons wars, to Nerf battles, to LAN parties, and others.) -Finals Week Breakfast -Local Camping Trips -Casino Night -Concerts and Festivals

    Great for these types of students

    -Those who enjoy the Computer Science and related fields. -Those who are willing to put in the hard work and time required of them -Those who don't want to just go through the motions and get a degree, but rather build a career and get launched into a dynamic industry, fully prepared and equipped to succeed in their endeavors.

    Bang for the buck

    Neumont's programs offer students the unique opportunity to build up a portfolio of projects to show future employers at job interviews, some of which come not from coursework itself, but from partnerships and Enterprise Projects where students have the opportunity to work on a project for a partnering company either locally or not. As long as you put in the time and effort and honor all of your commitments in terms of you charges and owning your education, you will, without a doubt, have a wonderful return on this investment.

    What to do for fun

    There are many different clubs and orders at the school, from a soccer club to a student-organized choir, and the student advisers always try to plan things that sound fun and provide a welcome respite from our day-to-day work and other things going on (some of these planned events even come by suggestion from the students). Excursions into the mountains and stargazing trips are a few examples of such events. The valley itself has many things in and around Salt Lake City in terms of entertainment and activity, for instance, City Creek Center has multiple shopping outlets for those who wish to shop, likewise with the Southtowne Center in South Jordan. For those who enjoy the arts, both the Capitol Theatre and Abravanel Hall will often feature a wide array of performances, from Broadway shows to performances by the Utah Symphony.

    Food and Dining

    In terms of on-campus meals, a catering service comes in every week, Monday through Thursday and has a few hot options as well as a salad bar. The area has a fair amount of restaurants, both sit-down (Applebees, Olive Garden, etc.) and more quicker options (Subway, etc.), from which to choose, all of which have extremely delicious menu options, not to mention healthy options for those more calorie-conscious. There are also plenty of local grocery stores and markets from which fresh ingredients can be purchased for making meals from scratch. I would also like to add that for students which stay at school over Thanksgiving, there is an excellent home-style Thanksgiving dinner held in the afternoon at the University with some of the best traditionally made foods one would expect to find at home.

    Dorm Life

    Student housing provides excellent opportunities in its current iteration: sublet apartments in a local apartment complex (or two) which aren't too far from the Neumont Campus and include amenities such as a clubhouse, exercise room, pool and spa, and plenty of room to walk or bike and get fresh air. Each apartment has its own kitchen and living area, and is furnished with the bare minimum needs (microwave, oven, refrigerator, couch, table, chairs, twin beds in each room, etc.), the particular apartment I reside in is a two-bed, two-bath apartment. In general each apartment has 3-4 students residing in it.

    Academic Rigor

    Neumont has a rigorous and high-pace/accelerated program designed that one can earn their degree (provided that they stay on pace and put in their due diligence) in 2.5 years (3 years if one's in the Game Development program). A significant part of the class structure is not your daily lecture, but is largely project driven and places an emphasis on independent study. You not only learn the material, but learn how to practically apply it at the same time.

    Tips for prospective students

    I have found the Neumont experience to be interesting to say the least. This University certainly has more of a geek-driven culture (that's not to say that everyone here is a gamer or fully immerses themselves in that aspect). My main tip: do not take the Neumont system lightly, what you put into your education here, will be reflected upon by what you get out of it and vice versa. To be blunt, while our culture is a little gaming oriented, you're not here to game, but to lay the foundations of your future and increase your marketability.

    In three sentences

    The size of the University is to the point where Faculty and your fellow students are nearly always on hand to talk on a one-on-one basis on any subject, academic or otherwise. The instruction environment focuses on you, the student, taking charge of your own education and learning not just the material, but how to continue to learn in a fast-paced, rapidly improving industry. At Neumont, one simply does not earn a degree, but rather begins to build a career.

  • 11/08/2012

    Reviewer is A current student here.

    1 out of 1 people found this review useful. 9 of 15

    Categories Comments
    Campus Safety

    The campus is revolving around technology and thus provides security to their students in the network. Disallowing peer-to-peer access to disallow any kind of unwarranted remote compromising. Other than that, there have been little to no crimes committed on campus during my attendance, to my knowledge.

    Clubs and Activities

    There are clubs both dealing with tech, and others that do not. If there is something that isn't there and has potential demand, one can suggest it and they'll try it to see how it goes.

    Great for these types of students

    The atmosphere is very tech-oriented, which would be appealing to the following types: Programmers, Gamers, Artists, Designers, and Computer-Savvy.

    Share any unusual traditions or locations on campus

    There is a plethora of geek related events around and outside of the campus. The view of the mountains is also breathtaking.

    Bang for the buck

    Neumont is expensive to attend, but the numbers show it is worth it. For the demanding course load and expenses, you get ample work-related experience and a chance for a very appealing first year salary.

    What to do for fun

    There are plenty of ways to socialize with fellow colleagues. As everyone is more-or-less interested in the same thing, it isn't too hard to find someone that would play a video game, card game, table top game, or just simply go and hang out.

    Food and Dining

    Neumont Students are provided lunch at the building for a fee if they choose, however there are plenty of food establishments nearby if they are looking for a cheaper alternative.

    Dorm Life

    The housing situation has played out well for me personally so far. I live with 3 other roommates in an apartment. However, in the next year, Neumont will be moving to a new building and thus, a new housing plan.

    Academic Rigor

    The course is designed to test the student and is also packed together, which allows for an earlier graduation, but also means a lot of focus and attention to class progression. Don't get lost behind as everything compounds on previous knowledge.

    Tips for prospective students

    One should be able to adapt to a professional environment and learn to work with a team. Expect to work on actual business level enterprise projects that not only give you work-related experience but will also look great on a resume.

    In three sentences

    Neumont is great for the tech field-seeking student. You'll be working in a team environment with like-minded colleagues and invested teachers. The workload gets heavy but are very well worth it given their graduate's average starting salary and high employment rate. ($62K and 96% as of 2012)

  • 05/26/2013

    Reviewer is A past student here.

    1 out of 2 people found this review useful. 10 of 15

    Categories Comments
    Campus Safety

    Very safe

    Clubs and Activities

    Lots of gaming clubs

    Great for these types of students

    Computer geeks

    Bang for the buck

    My son has Asperger's, he fell behind @ Neumont, and was unable to catch up. He had to come home after 4 months @ NU, he is <$20,000 in debit($44,000 with interest when he has it paid off in 20 yrs.) He is depressed, broke, & jobless since coming home. I am speaking from a broken hearted parent's point of view. I feel my son was taken advantage of.

    What to do for fun

    Gaming

    Food and Dining

    Good

    Dorm Life

    Nice apartment

    Academic Rigor

    Very fast-pased.

    Tips for prospective students

    Research!

    In three sentences

    Broken hearted family. We were told that Neumont had a higher that average Asperger's population. They might, but are not geared toward kid's who have L.D's

  • 07/31/2013

    Reviewer is A current student here.

    1 out of 1 people found this review useful. 11 of 15

    Categories Comments
    Campus Safety

    Students are issued student ID's out side of office hours the school automatically locks down to outside access. When the school is locked down a student or faculty ID must be used to access the building or restricted areas of the school via a card reader.

    Clubs and Activities

    Clubs come and go here, most of the clubs have something to do with games or anime, however two of the long standing clubs are Neumont Spectrum which is Neumont's GSA Club, and USG (Student Government).

    Share any unusual traditions or locations on campus

    Each time finals come around the week before the start Neumont host the Midnight Breakfast This event is a feast that starts a 6 pm not midnight, at this feast Neumont students are treated the breakfast foods and normally there are a few LAN parties and game tournaments going on as well.

    Bang for the buck

    If you are looking for a career in Computer Science, it is well worth it to come here. Neumont University has an excellent Career services department that will help you find a job after graduation, and you can always come back to them.

    What to do for fun

    Neumont offers random activities throughout the year. There are many hiking trails nearby. Both Neumont and the gateway mall are within the Free Fair Zone in downtown salt lake, Ride Trax to the Gateway Mall and enjoy a movie at the Megaplex theatres or visit the Planetarium.

    Food and Dining

    There are a few local restaurants that offer discounts for Neumont students.

    Dorm Life

    Neumont cares about the students in student housing, the will try their best to make sure the students are as comfortable as possible, There is a Full kitchen and all students have access to washers and dryers for laundry

    Academic Rigor

    Classes are challenging and fast paced, Help is always provided and questions are encouraged.

    Tips for prospective students

    1) Neumont offers a fast paced program, while it is nice to earn a bachelors degree in two and a half years this means you can not afford to fall behind. Stay on top of your work. 2) Try to get an apartment in the Tower, then you will only need to ride an elevator to get to class on time. 3) If you are stuck on something seek help as soon as possible, it is easy to fall behind if you wait.

    In three sentences

    Neumont focuses it's attention on Software development and those who interact with Software developers. It has a fast paced project oriented program that is designed to not just give you the theoretical knowledge that you would get from most schools but practical experience as well. The rigorous program Neumont offers ensures the work quality of the professionals that they put out.

  • 08/12/2013

    Reviewer is Accepted here and planning to attend soon. Reviewer has been to campus.

    1 out of 1 people found this review useful. 12 of 15

    Categories Comments
    What to do for fun

    Neumont has multiple activities for students to take part in through out the year; such as video game tournaments, nerf wars, etc.

    Food and Dining

    There is a student lounge area that has a myriad of food options.

    Dorm Life

    I am married and won't be living in the dorms. However, Neumont has 6 floors (above the school) for students to rent out as well as a sector of an apartment complex a few blocks away.

    Academic Rigor

    With Neumont offering a Bachelor's Degree in 2.5 years, the academics are very rigorous. Class time is very focused on the major you have declared and a new student should expect a few hours of homework nightly

    Tips for prospective students

    Be prepared for a rigorous curriculum. Be prepared to work incredibly hard on your school work and projects. Be excited to get a fantastic education and job offers from big name companies. Expect to make $65,000/yr OR MORE (starting) at these jobs.

    In three sentences

    I rate Neumont University at a 5 (out of 5). I am very pleased with the focused curriculum. I look forward to having my Bachelor's Degree in 2.5 years total school time.

  • 04/07/2011

    Reviewer is Researching this school. Reviewer has not been to campus.

    0 out of 5 people found this review useful. 13 of 15

    Categories Comments
    Will enjoy being here

    you get to work on projects that are for great companiese.

  • 02/21/2013

    Reviewer is A current student here.

    14 of 15

    Categories Comments
    Campus Safety

    The campus is very safe as there is security near at all times, and you need a key-card to access the floors where students usually are. Without this key-card you can't access the floors, so that's pretty safe.

    Clubs and Activities

    While there aren't too many clubs due to it being a small university, the ones that are offered are amazing. There is Soccer club, Japanese Club, Behind the Screen, several clubs on trading card games, and many more. You can easily start up your own club with the help of the Student Advocates.

    Great for these types of students

    This school is definitely great for Technology oriented people, or those who want hands-on experience on programming or game development.

    Share any unusual traditions or locations on campus

    We have Nerdigras in place of Mardi Gras. The tradition changes a bit with it being centered among technology and the wide arrangement of food and things to play with.

    Bang for the buck

    Neumont definitely has bang for the buck. All of the instructors have real -world experience working in tech-based companies. In my opinion, this is far better than someone who just reads the theory and hasn't really practiced it.

    What to do for fun

    As Neumont is a technology based school, we have a gaming room which has several televisions and several game consoles going back from the old Atari to the current PS3 and Xbox 360. You can really go anywhere and find something fun to do.

    Food and Dining

    Neumont currently has a catering company come in Monday - Thursday and many of the school's clubs make their own food to sell on Friday. The selection of food between the caterers and the clubs is broad and great tasting.

    Dorm Life

    Dorm life is almost what you would expect in any university. You have students going to other's dorms to study or hang out, and students who hang out outside of the dorms. The RAs always make sure everything is going well between your roommates and if there's a problem, they'll resolve it rather quickly.

    Academic Rigor

    Neumont is a computer science centered university, so coming into it with no knowledge of computers will be tough. Despite this, with hard work and much practice, one can learn what it's all about and excel. It's an accelerated program with a 2 week break between quarters and a 1 day break in the middle of the quarter.

    Tips for prospective students

    The main thing is time management. Since the schooling is fast paced, you'll need to manage your time wisely or you'll fall behind rather quickly. Don't get too caught up in games, and if you ever feel like you don't understand something 100%, ask questions. No one will think you're dumb and they'll be more than happy to help you understand.

    In three sentences

    Neumont is a very practical university which has instructors with real-world experience, not just theory. As well as the excellent instructors, Neumont offers hands-on learning as opposed to the traditional long lectures. Its instructors also take time out of their day to make sure you understand the material and are always there if you don't.

  • 05/23/2014

    Reviewer is A current student here.

    15 of 15

    Categories Comments
    Clubs and Activities

    LOL? or dota2? choose you poison but its not just MOBA games or just games. plenty of other fun activities are held to break the meta.

    Great for these types of students

    love computers? cant get enough and desire to know more? looking for more people who love them just as much as you. maybe even play a couple of rounds of Smash bros? then you may have fun here.

    What to do for fun

    Its all up you. you can easily go out into the city and find plenty of activities. as well, some of neumont faculty and students plan activities like the Foam wars or League Tournaments.

    Food and Dining

    With the location pretty much in the middle of salt lake city, the mall and other restaurants are all within walking distance. (Mall for me is about 8 or so blocks XD). want to know more? Google it!!

    Dorm Life

    depending whether you get the tower or one of the two apartment complexes you will be grouped up with great people who will most likely have the same interest as you(this is a tech/geek school(you know like D&D, MTG, and all the games)), Most likely guys from all over the US. everyone has different opinions on whom they live with thus some roommates may make it difficult to live with them. I am great with my roommates and have hilarious times with them. thus a 4 out of 5, because i cannot guarantee that all of you future roommates meet up to your standards.

    Academic Rigor

    this is an accelerated programs so all the classes have a more fast past than a traditional class. The professors know what they are teaching with their past experience and are motivated to show you the way. i love the vibe a professor gives when he loves what he does and is always excited to teach their class.

    Tips for prospective students

    I'm still considered a noob at the time of me writing this review, but one important attribute that will ruin you is....procrastination . kill it before it kills you.